Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

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Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by maeg » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:52 pm

Hi

Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" in this section of the forum?? :?

Yesterday the thread with Template providers was removed from the section, and a new advertis with Mickey's templates was put and fixed in the top of this section and the german forum. I know Gert was making a comments on it, because i saw it, and i was total agree with him, but before i was abel to give Gert my full support on his comments, Gerts comment and the new advertis from Mickeys was removed agen.

When i create a new template, put it in the forum, it sometimes happens that someboddy write a bad or good comment on it, (the bad comments i leard of them, and good and nice comments feels good) but for some reason meny of the good and nice comments always get deletet short after they are add to the thread, and i know for sure that it is not the author of the comment that has deletet them agen, so it have to be one with admin rights in the forum. Why???

Now i can see Mickeys advertis back in the top agen. Can all template providers or plugin providers get the same service and advertis on the forum in front of all other????

I'm just aksking "Whats going on" :?:

Sorry for my bad english :)

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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by mikey » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:13 am

maeg wrote:Hi

Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" in this section of the forum?? :?

Yesterday the thread with Template providers was removed from the section, and a new advertis with Mickey's templates was put and fixed in the top of this section and the german forum. I know Gert was making a comments on it, because i saw it, and i was total agree with him, but before i was abel to give Gert my full support on his comments, Gerts comment and the new advertis from Mickeys was removed agen.

When i create a new template, put it in the forum, it sometimes happens that someboddy write a bad or good comment on it, (the bad comments i leard of them, and good and nice comments feels good) but for some reason meny of the good and nice comments always get deletet short after they are add to the thread, and i know for sure that it is not the author of the comment that has deletet them agen, so it have to be one with admin rights in the forum. Why???

Now i can see Mickeys advertis back in the top agen. Can all template providers or plugin providers get the same service and advertis on the forum in front of all other????

I'm just aksking "Whats going on" :?:

Sorry for my bad english :)
to answer your questions:

- yes, posts were made, deleted and reposted, gert has the option to repost as well

- can all template providers get the same service ! ONLY if/when you make substantial changes to your website that cmsimple users would benefit knowing - send an admin a PM if you feel your post warrants it

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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by maeg » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:27 am

Hi Mikey

Thx for quick replay
mikey wrote: to answer your questions:

- yes, posts were made, deleted and reposted, gert has the option to repost as well

- can all template providers get the same service ! ONLY if/when you make substantial changes to your website that cmsimple users would benefit knowing - send an admin a PM if you feel your post warrants it

mikey
I don't know what substantial changes i have to make, my site only contains templates and translations for CMSimple

BTW: I can see that it is and old link, to mysite on the Template provider thread, just sent you a pm with the new link

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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by Gert » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:14 am

Hello again,

@ Maeg:

thank you for your comment, so I'm not the only one "bad guy" ;)
maeg wrote:for some reason meny of the good and nice comments always get deletet short after they are add to the thread, and i know for sure that it is not the author of the comment that has deletet them agen, so it have to be one with admin rights in the forum. Why???
Sometimes there are "friendly" comments (from new registerd "members0815") like "Nice template - great work" - with a link to an online shop or porn sites in the footer. That's Spam, all Admins and Moderators deletes such Spam (sometimes I also delete spam) ;)

@ Mikey:

I'm sure, you will understand our point of view:

The day before yesterday was:

- the list of template designers deleted
- the rules for the template section of the forum deleted
- your advertising "fixed on top" here and in the German forum

... all at the same time, in one step :o - do you understand our reaction now?

The fixed threads alone never would have caused our reactions. If the deleted list of template designers was an accident, you should declare it - we could not know it. That would be the only acceptable reason for.
mikey wrote:can all template providers get the same service ! ... send an admin a PM if you feel your post warrants it
Sorry, but this could be end up in a mess. Only one can be the first.

Sometime ago we all together have criticized Torstens offensive posting behavior in this forum, to get the top positions in the thread list. And now you use your admin rights to win the run for the top positions.

But the Admins have to decide, if this is acceptable,

Gert

PS: The new list of template designers is up to date and very nice, I like the new screenshots, thank you ;)
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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by Holger » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:15 pm

Hi maeg,

just a few words for clarification:
maeg wrote:Yesterday the thread with Template providers was removed from the section, and a new advertis with Mickey's templates was put and fixed in the top of this section and the german forum. I know Gert was making a comments on it, because i saw it, and i was total agree with him, but before i was abel to give Gert my full support on his comments, Gerts comment and the new advertis from Mickeys was removed agen.
I've noticed that too.
I've talked to Mikey after he has removed his ads. He told me that Gert was not - let's say "happy" - about the things happened there. So he removed the posts again.
It was me, who encouraged Mikey to put the posts back to the forums.
Why?
Maybe you've noticed that Mikey has removed most of his threads. This was done because he's about rebuilding his website and the links to the demos etc. got dead therefore. Only this should be reason enough to put a sticky to his website at the forum for a while. But - together with his new fees for his templates, it's IMO of course fine to put that stickys.

And, at least, this forum is driven for you as a little project of me and Mikey. Maybe you've not yet noticed that fact, but you can see that at the rank "Site Admin" in our user-profile. Mikey and I are the only Admins / Mods with "Founder" - status.
We do that work (together with some other Moderators and Admins - thanks to all of you!) in our free time and free of charge.
So this forum is not driven by some hard to define community, it's better to see it as a private "hobby".
And, from this point of view, let me ask you: is it not ok when I or Mikey put some ads for our own stuff as a sticky to the forum?
I think it is.
But anyway
maeg wrote:Can all template providers or plugin providers get the same service and advertis on the forum in front of all other????
Of course it's not possible for everyone to be "the first". And I've discussed some time ago with other users the possibility to put some (paid?) ads to the forum. I was not interested in that, because at the end it means just more work for a small charge. I've told them to use their signature for links or so instead.
So if "the bad guys ;) " now got upset, we must again look for a better solution.
I've discussed that with Gert in some PMs last night and it seems he's right when he said that the possibility to place paid ads to the forum is a "fair for all" way.
Those ads should be clear declared and placed at a prominent position. I've not yet talked to Mikey about that, so it could take some time until I can offer a solution or not.
maeg wrote:When i create a new template, put it in the forum, it sometimes happens that someboddy write a bad or good comment on it, (the bad comments i leard of them, and good and nice comments feels good) but for some reason meny of the good and nice comments always get deletet short after they are add to the thread, and i know for sure that it is not the author of the comment that has deletet them agen, so it have to be one with admin rights in the forum. Why???
As Gert wrote above, such a deleted post was for sure spam and got deleted from an Admin or Mod. If you in doubt about that, drop me a line if you notice that again, I can look at the forum-logs to find out what happened and to give you clarification.
But believe me: I trust all the Admins and Moderators here and especially Mikey, who made his job here since nearly from the beginning and every time without hassle.

I hope you can understand and agree with our / my position and we can close the topic now.
If not, feel free to keep on the discussion.

KR
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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by maeg » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:03 pm

Hi Holger
Holger wrote: And, at least, this forum is driven for you as a little project of me and Mikey. Maybe you've not yet noticed that fact, but you can see that at the rank "Site Admin" in our user-profile. Mikey and I are the only Admins / Mods with "Founder" - status.
We do that work (together with some other Moderators and Admins - thanks to all of you!) in our free time and free of charge.
So this forum is not driven by some hard to define community, it's better to see it as a private "hobby".
I know that and, I appreciate your voluntary work - keep on that -. I use this forum very much, and it has allways been a good forum.
I was just wondering what was going on. Now i have got the answers.

And i agree with you - lets close this tropic and look forward
Gert wrote: PS: The new list of template designers is up to date and very nice, I like the new screenshots, thank you
+1 looks cool :D

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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by mikey » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:51 am

all comments are good and not only welcomed but are expected by all regular members,

but i must address Gert's assumption, that a Site Admin has to detail an Admin "Action" to all

unfortunately, this would never be possible in any forum, there is a reason, an Admin is an Admin & to expect ALL actions ( even unwelcomed ones ) by us to be posted with an explanation, would be unreasonable.

there is nothing wrong with not LIKING why something was done, but to harp an admin decision, is surely unproductive.

nothing i do, is for the purpose of hurting any other members, or this forum for that matter.

as Holger has said, i am a co-founder, and whilst i will "de-sticky" my post soon ( as i know how many views it has, and make sure most members have seen it ) i do reserve the right to basically post whatever and wherever i deem to be appropraite, whilst retaining the integrity of both my position as Admin, and a member.

of course, 29 sticky's would never work ;) BUT, how many times has a template maker / plugin maker made such drastic changes to their demos, access thereof, or the massive price deductions i have made, i can't recall.

once again, should any member request a sticky etc, due to their website changes are major, you will be acccomodated with a sticky post, i can't be more fairer than that.

thanks for reading :)

cheers
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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by Gert » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:43 am

Gert wrote:The fixed threads alone never would have caused our reactions. If the deleted list of template designers was an accident, you should declare it - we could not know it. That would be the only acceptable reason for.
mikey wrote:to expect ALL actions ( even unwelcomed ones ) by us to be posted with an explanation, would be unreasonable.
No comment - Gert
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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by mikey » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:31 am

Gert wrote:
Gert wrote:The fixed threads alone never would have caused our reactions. If the deleted list of template designers was an accident, you should declare it - we could not know it. That would be the only acceptable reason for.
mikey wrote:to expect ALL actions ( even unwelcomed ones ) by us to be posted with an explanation, would be unreasonable.
No comment - Gert
that comment, in itself, shows your dissention, which no one needs, almost troll posting, so given that, unless someone has something construtive to post, this thread will be closed.

cheers
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Re: Sometimes i'm wondering "What is going on" ??

Post by svasti » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:26 am

I think Gert has a valid point.
This forum is a project of all its contributers. The founding-admins give the frame, but the contributers give the life.
Like in a family, sometimes there is dissent. So, what?

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